It is not a new topic for me either but since I read the
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damned_colonial about the lack of women in the open source world I tried to do some little things. Primarily I tried to talk to a few women about it.
I probably grossly misunderstood everyone, so let me just write down what did I understand:
Last week I had a chat with Su-Shee whom I guess I can describe as a geek woman that started off on how to attract more women to the Padre project. The main point I got from that conversation was that women are less interested in the technology behind the thing (e.g. they don't care much if it is written in Perl, Python or Java) and are more interested in how can a tool help them to get their job done.
This was more or less confirmed by my wife who is a super anti-geek.
On the other hand in the last 7 days or so I looked around DreamWidth in an attempt to locate interesting posts and people. Most of the people I found seem to be women - based on either their self description in their profile or on some of the comments they make. They are involved in conversations which are interesting but none of which seem to have any connection to getting things done.
That just seems sooo contradicting to me.
Based on this sample I can easily generalize to the rest of the 3+ billion women and say that I still have no clue what would interest (or allow) more women to join open source projects in general and Padre in specific and what could I do to help that.
Maybe most importantly what can I do to make the life of my daughter easier?
So for now back reading about Geekfeminism.
Standing out in the crowd: OSCON keynote of
damned_colonial about the lack of women in the open source world I tried to do some little things. Primarily I tried to talk to a few women about it.I probably grossly misunderstood everyone, so let me just write down what did I understand:
Last week I had a chat with Su-Shee whom I guess I can describe as a geek woman that started off on how to attract more women to the Padre project. The main point I got from that conversation was that women are less interested in the technology behind the thing (e.g. they don't care much if it is written in Perl, Python or Java) and are more interested in how can a tool help them to get their job done.
This was more or less confirmed by my wife who is a super anti-geek.
On the other hand in the last 7 days or so I looked around DreamWidth in an attempt to locate interesting posts and people. Most of the people I found seem to be women - based on either their self description in their profile or on some of the comments they make. They are involved in conversations which are interesting but none of which seem to have any connection to getting things done.
That just seems sooo contradicting to me.
Based on this sample I can easily generalize to the rest of the 3+ billion women and say that I still have no clue what would interest (or allow) more women to join open source projects in general and Padre in specific and what could I do to help that.
Maybe most importantly what can I do to make the life of my daughter easier?
So for now back reading about Geekfeminism.
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it was not my point but yeah
I wonder if it is only men who make religious language wars and if so is it because they being 98.5% in the OS community or because they like to pick fights?
Re: it was not my point but yeah
I *think* it's the latter, but I don't feel comfortable making that judgmental, as I don't really particiape - maybe a bit in the Linux/Windows debate, but only face-to-face with people I know.
It think it plays very much into the 'my local sports team is better' mentality - you defend what you know again the outside.
[And, for your information and because I know it's not intuitive for someone coming from different platform - if you use the 'reply' button directly on my comment, I get a shiny e-mail that tells me you commented :)]